Podcast - The Art of Modern Ops


Welcome to the Art of Modern Ops - a podcast series on modernizing cloud infrastructure. Through a series of interviews with both visionaries and practitioners, we are discussing hands-on use cases with those who have completed the digital transformation and others still in transition.

Latest Episode:

Ep.23 - Lunar Bank Uses GitOps to Standardize Workflows and Enhance the Developer Experience

Guest speaker: Bjørn Hald Sørensen, and Kasper Nissen, Lunar Bank

Lunar is a 100% digital bank and a FinTech company that strives to democratize the power of money and the way we spend and invest it. Headquartered in Aarhus, Denmark, Lunar operates in Denmark, Sweden, and Norway serving its 500,000 active customers with a team of 650+ employees. Having received over €345 in funding, Lunar’s valuation is currently at $2.25B

In the latest episode of our podcast the Art of Modern Ops, Bjørn Hald Sørensen, Engineering Manager of the Platform Team, and Kasper Nissen, Lead Platform Architect at Lunar Bank, are describing how Lunar Bank streamlined workflows and enhanced their developer experience with GitOps.

The Art of Modern Ops · Lunar Uses GitOps to Standardize Workflows and Enhance the Developer Experience

Other Episodes:

Ep.1 - Navigating the Kubernetes Hype Cycle

Guest speaker: Liz Rice, Aqua Security

Anyone who looks at the growth of Kubecon CloudNativeCon attendance over the past four years can recognize that Kubernetes is more than a passing fad. Instead, Kubernetes represents the way forward for companies to scale, go faster and be more competitive. Many question whether we’ve achieved ‘peak Kubecon’.

Listen in as Cornelia Davis and Liz Rice discuss the current state of cloud native, its ecosystem of projects and how the CNCF can help you navigate the complexity of piecing together a Kubernetes solution that’s right for your team.

The Art of Modern Ops · Navigating the Kubernetes Hype Cycle with Cornelia Davis, Weaveworks & Liz Rice, Aqua Security

Ep.2 - Is Kubernetes Ready for Specialization? 

Guest speaker: Cody Hill, Packet

Kubernetes is often selected by organizations to meet specific requirements that can give businesses a competitive advantage. Requirements may include features involving machine learning to make real-time recommendations, to perform ‘intelligent queries’ or they may be needed for real-time, on-site data processing like that available from Edge infrastructure setups. In this episode of the Art of Modern Ops, Cornelia Davis, Weaveworks CTO and Cody Hill, Packet Field CTO explore what this type of Kubernetes infrastructure looks like in practice.

The Art of Modern Ops · Is Kubernetes Ready for Specialization? with Cornelia Davis, Weaveworks & Cody Hill, Packet

Ep.3 - Carving out a Cloud Native Culture in Established Organizations

Guest speaker: Chris Short, RedHat

It’s been said that the process of building software is as much about people as it is about writing the code. According to a recent survey conducted by the CNCF, 43% of respondents indicated that cultural changes were a top challenge.

The success of implementing cloud native technology and DevOps best practices into your organization depends a lot on your existing company culture. Internal teams must not only learn to adopt cross-functional methods that ensure software is iterated on with a continuous cadence but that it also complements the business goals. Making the actual switch to a cloud native technical solution may be the simplest part in your journey; but how you get to that technical solution, and propagating that throughout your organization could well be the most difficult part of the process.

The Art of Modern Ops · Carving out a Cloud Native Culture in Established Organizations

Ep.4 - Is Envoy a Service Mesh or a Platform?

Guest speaker: Matt Klein, Lyft

Lyft migrated their single monolithic service to 300+ microservices with their internal proxy and API gateway, called Envoy. Knowing that many other organizations will have faced similar problems to Lyft, Envoy was open sourced and later donated to the CNCF where it recently graduated to production ready status alongside Kubernetes and Prometheus.

In this episode of the Art of Modern Ops podcast, Matt Klein, Lyft Software Engineer and Cornelia Davis Weaveworks CTO discuss the history of Envoy and how it was originally used as an API gateway and how it differs from a purpose-built service mesh.

The Art of Modern Ops · Is Envoy a Service Mesh or a Platform?

Ep.5 - Does Open Source Drive Business Innovation?

Guest speaker: Matt Asay, AWS

In this thought-provoking conversation Cornelia Davis of Weaveworks and Matt Asay of AWS explore the history of the open source movement, and examine the motivating factors that have driven consumers to increasingly insist on open source.

Arguably launched by the success of Linux as an open source project, the shift has driven technology providers to include open source software as an integral component of an enterprise-wide technology strategy. A few defining moments led to this explosion of available open source projects, as well an increase in trust shown by the number of companies who have built businesses around open source. Matt has spent virtually his entire career experiencing these shifts first hand, and we think you’ll agree, that he brings a wealth of fascinating insights to the open source conversation.

The Art of Modern Ops · Does Open Source Drive Business Innovation?

Ep.6 - DevOps Metrics - Success Follows Failure

Guest speaker: Steve Wade, Mettle

Cornelia Davis and Steve Wade take a look at GitOps, DevOp and the metrics used to measure your progress as a newly formed DevOps team. Steve Wade is the platform lead at Mettle, a fintech company in the UK that provides free digital business accounts that can help small businesses and the self-employed start, run and grow their business.

Steve thinks about DevOps in terms of a process rather than a technology. DevOps to him is using automation to eliminate waste from development and platform management cycles. In addition to this it can be thought of as a type of systems engineering that when done effectively, enables information sharing across all business units. But to close those information gaps across an entire company, you need to make iterative improvements that can be easily measured and improved upon. Once you’ve identified those improvement areas the entire organization is propelled towards a much higher velocity.

The Art of Modern Ops · Podcast: DevOps Metrics - Success Follows Failure

Ep.7 - Kubernetes in Highly Regulated Industries

Guest speaker: Mike Bowen, BlackRock

BlackRock is one of the largest investment companies in the world. With a 30-year history and an impressive performance, the company does not shy away from the latest trends in cloud native infrastructure. In just 100 days, the BlackRock platform team managed to roll out a full production Kubernetes environment and released a more modern version of Aladdin, their internal investor research app. Mike Bowen, Director of Open Source discusses the challenges and benefits of Kubernetes and other cloud native tooling in a regulated environment like Blackrock.

The Art of Modern Ops · Kubernetes in Highly Regulated Industries

Ep.8 - Buzzword Bingo - What Do you Really Need for Kubernetes?

Guest speaker: Kelsey Hightower, Developer Advocate, Google

It seems like every day there is a new OSS project that promises to solve all the things. In this episode, Cornelia Davis, CTO at Weaveworks and Kelsey Hightower, Developer Advocate at Google cut through the hype with the essential patterns needed to run Kubernetes in production.

The Art of Modern Ops · Buzzword Bingo - What do you really need for Kubernetes?

Ep.9 - Z System in the Age of DevOps: When Eventual Consistency is Not an Option

Guest speaker: Rosalind Radcliffe, IBM 

The Art of Modern Ops · Z System in the Age of DevOps: When Eventual Consistency is Not an Option

Ep.10 - Building Internal Kubernetes Platforms

Guest speaker: Camille Fournier, Two Sigma

For most organizations building an internal platform team can be a challenge when your internal customers are engineers and you don’t have any type of formal product management. How do you go about keeping up with the product side of things when you’re knee deep in Kubernetes, storage systems and configuration management and other frameworks for services?

In this episode, Camille Fournier, Managing Director at Two Sigma and Cornelia Davis, CTO at Weaveworks discuss what it takes to build an internal platform within your organization.

The Art of Modern Ops · Camille Fournier on Building Internal Kubernetes Platforms

Ep.11 - DevOps and the Visibility of Work in the Value Stream

Guest speaker: Dominica DeGrandis, Tasktop

In this age of faster, and leaner software delivery, managing teams and more importantly managing tasks and workflows, both within teams and across teams, is more relevant than ever. Time waste, too much work in progress and an overhead of technical debt are just a few of the problems that enterprises and other large organizations are faced with.

Tune in as Cornelia Davis, CTO Weaveworks and Dominica DeGrandis, director of Digital Transformation at Tasktop offers some practical advice on evaluating IT workflows in the enterprise and how to manage technical debt and other invisible work

The Art of Modern Ops · Camille Fournier on Building Internal Kubernetes Platforms

Ep.12 - Kubernetes at Deutsche Telekom - GitOps at the Edge

Guest speaker: Vuk Gojnic, Deutsche Telekom

The panacea for most organizations when they adopt cloud native technologies is portability across multiple clouds, data-centres and even the edge. In this latest episode Vuk Gojnic of Deutsche Telekom and Cornelia Davis of Weaveworks discuss Das Schiff - a Kubernetes as a service platform for vendors and application developers.

The Art of Modern Ops · Kubernetes at Deutsche Telekom - GitOps at the Edge

Ep.13 - Tech as Fashion: Do Tools Drive Developer Cultural Change? 

Guest speaker: James Governor, Redmonk

In this episode of the Art of Modern Ops, Cornelia Davis sat down with industry analyst James Governor of Redmonk to discuss the state of DevOps, cloud native and what really drives developers to choose the tools they use.

The Art of Modern Ops · Tech as Fashion: Do tools drive developer cultural change?

Ep.14 - DevOps Foundations and Future 

Guest speaker: Gene Kim, Author and CTO, Tripwire

In this episode Cornelia Davis and Wall Street Journal bestselling author, Gene Kim discuss the ways of working with DevOps as portrayed in Gene’s groundbreaking books The Phoenix Project and The Unicorn Project. As organizations think about digital transformation, they focus on the act of development. Elevating developer productivity is the end goal as teams optimizing infrastructure and operations.

The Art of Modern Ops · Tech as Fashion: Do tools drive developer cultural change?

Ep.15 - How the Service Mesh Became a Service Mess 

Guest speaker: William Morgan, creator of Linkerd and CEO of Bouyant

In this episode Cornelia Davis and creator of Linkerd, William Morgan have a brilliant discussion on the origins of the service mesh, its ecosystem and why it’s important for Kubernetes centric infrastructures today. 

The Art of Modern Ops · How the Service Mesh became a Service Mess

Ep.16 - Delivery Engineering = GitOps at State Farm 

Guest speaker: Mae Large, Architecture Manager at State Farm

At State Farm delivery engineering is about enabling every product team to deploy changes to platforms in a simple, compliant, and repeatable manner - a very succinct explanation of the term "GitOps". Tune in to hear more about State Farm's adoption journey of GitOps.

The Art of Modern Ops · Delivery engineering = GitOps at State Farm

Ep.17 - Authorize Better with OPA - Security Policy as Code 

Guest speaker: Gareth Rushgrove, VP of Product at Snyk 

As Gareth explains in this episode, OPA is important because it provides an essential function: the ability to define and enforce a single set of policies and manage them all through a single interface, rather than using different languages, models, and APIs for different tools, across your organization.

The Art of Modern Ops · Authorize better with OPA - security policy as code

Ep.18 - The Cloud Native Transformation for Telcos

Guest speaker: Deutsche Telekom’s Vuk Gojnic, Orange Business Services CTO Phillippe Ensarguet and Ericsson’s Torsten Dinsing

In the latest episode of our podcast, The Art of Modern Ops, host and Weaveworks CTO Cornelia Davis welcomes three leaders from the telo world, each with their own perspective on the transition from virtualized infrastructure to cloud native architectures.

The Art of Modern Ops·The cloud native transformation for telcos

Ep.19 - OpenGitOps - The Vendor-Neutral GitOps Project

Weaveworks CTO Cornelia Davis leads an insightful and very lively discussion with some of the founding members and active contributors of theGitOps Working Group

(GWG). The focus of the GWG, a working group under the CNCF App Delivery SIG, is to clearly define a vendor-neutral, principle-led meaning of GitOps. The goal however is to express a foundation for interoperability between tools, conformance, and certification. 

All of our 6 podcast guests have extensive working knowledge of GitOps, from the way it came into being to the way their customers are putting it to work today:

Talking points range from defining GitOps to what its underlying principles are and why we are seeing a steadily growing number of practitioners. 

OpenGitOps - The Vendor-Neutral GitOps Project

Ep.20 - Kubernetes has Won the Enterprise

Guest speakers: Michael Cote and Joe Beda, VMware

In the latest episode of our podcast, The Art of Modern Ops, we welcomed two renowned technologists to discuss the state of Kubernetes in the enterprise right now; Michael Cote and Joe Beda. They discuss the enterprise adoption of Kubernetes relative to the growth it saw in the start-up and small-to-medium-sized business.

Kubernetes has won the Enterprise

Ep.21 - The GitOps Market: Driving Progressive Delivery and Experimentation's Expansion

Guest speaker: Tyler Jewell, Dell Technologies Capital

Our latest episode of The Art of Modern Ops welcomes Tech investor and managing director of Dell Capital Technologies, Tyler Jewell. Topics covered are the increasing need of automating software particularly in complex fields such as continuous delivery and the growing shortage of developers handling increasingly intricate software systems. 

The Art of Modern Ops: The GitOps market: driving progressive delivery and experimentation's expansion

Ep.22 - Policy Management for Trusted Delivery

Guest speaker: Alexis Richardson, Weaveworks CEO and Mohamed Ahmed, Magalix CEO

In the latest instalment of The Art of Modern Ops welcomes Weaveworks CEO Alexis Richardson and Magalix CEO Mohamed Ahmed talk trusted delivery and GitOps.

The Art of Modern Ops: Policy management for trusted delivery

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